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Post by ryersonuniversity on Nov 25, 2018 13:30:36 GMT -5
High School Prospects Camp
Sunday, February 3, 2019 - 9:00 am to 12 noon.
Fieldhouse Athletics 5230 Harvester Road Burlington, ON L7L 4X4 For any high school students (Grades 9 to 12) wishing or interested in continuing their softball careers at the Canadian University of College level. The Prospects Camp is an opportunity to showcase your fastpitch skills in front of coaches from the various Ontario universities and colleges. The camp will be held at Fieldhouse Athletics, one of the country's premier training facilities for high performance baseball and softball development. It has multiple batting cages and has an open area with rubber infill ProTurf, ideal for long toss throwing, and for infield/outfield drills. Kirsten Grant and Lana Van Dyken from Fieldhouse Athletics and ex. North Carolina State players will be conducting the fielding and batting drills for the Prospects Camp. The camp is not only creating exposure for you, but will also develop your skills to play at this level. It is a great opportunity for players to learn about the fastpitch programs at the various Ontario universities and colleges and to connect with some of the coaches. It is also a chance for coaches to see some of the great players from our rep programs. Space is limited to 45 players
Registration Fees $100.00
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Post by ryersonuniversity on Nov 25, 2018 13:33:52 GMT -5
Look at who is coming to the High School Prospects Camp
Universities and Colleges attending the camp (as November 21, 2018)
Brock University
Conestoga College
Humber College
Laurier University
McMaster University
Mohawk College
Ryerson University
Seneca College
University of Guelph
University of Toronto
University of Waterloo
York University
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Post by granddaddygus on Nov 25, 2018 16:53:05 GMT -5
I'm curious as to who is the beneficiary of this exercise ? $4500 for three hours is a pretty steep charge.
It is noteworthy that the top two programs in Ontario -Durham and Western are not present. Interesting as those are the only two programs that likely have to cut any travel calibre players.
Does beg the question then why any player would fork over $100 to be "seen" by programs they could fairly easily walk on.
Hope the girls are at least getting a t-shirt out of it ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 18:25:48 GMT -5
Have to agree with Granddaddy. While there are some great ideas here to promote the OIWFA and OCAA softball programs, many of the programs are threatened with the possibility of not existing from one year to the next due to lack of try-out participation. Only in 2018 did the OIWFA get back to 13 teams, for example. It's great to get Ontario's programs together under one roof to ensure this doesn't happen & at least try to generate some interest and, in some cases, try to bolster some of these softball rosters, especially those who had a rough 2018 campaign with few wins at best. It's also great to get some former players, high profile ones at that with US experience, but if there are going to be as many as 45 registrants present, better to give them more than 3 hours to really benefit & get their money's worth, isn't it? (9-12 may not be enough). Is there a way to get the programs that'll be there 'watching' to actually do some 'doing' or exhibiting in some way? Something to promote Ontario schools as a viable option from one part of the province to the other to complement the player's chosen major of study? Otherwise it'll just be, as mentioned above, that prospective players will be paying Ryerson and Fieldhouse (from the looks of the contact info) but actually quite easily make the cuts come September. Unless this is promoted to the houseleagues or ORSA players who have interest in playing for their schools but don't have the rep training?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 11:00:41 GMT -5
Adding my two cents, which typically isn't wanted on this site anyways.
Agree with the above posts, the cost to attend this camp is much too high. Would look like a fundraiser for the host school which is Ryerson.
Memory serves me the coach of the Rams is also a coach at FH, can't imagine the rental is super expensive given that connection.
Any talented U19 player can almost walk onto campus in September and immediately be part of any of the programs attending this camp.
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Post by ryersonuniversity on Nov 27, 2018 11:15:16 GMT -5
In response to the above noted replies:
This event is meant to be a positive for our sport
Yes, I am a coach at Fieldhouse Athletics, but this is not a Fieldhouse event. Ryerson University is renting the Fieldhouse at market rate, as it is an ideal facility is hold such an event.
Yes, it is a fundraiser for the Ryerson University team. It is no different that holding a tournament where it is a fundraiser for any university or association. Almost every university team receives no money to support their program from the schools and therefore we have to be financially self sufficient. All of the fundraising money goes right back to grow the sport at the school.
Secondly and more importantly, the comments are offensive towards to any players who already plays at the university and college level by implying that anyone can make the team, that the camp should only apply to house league players and that any rep ball players just have to walk on. That perception is wrong, as caliber of ball played at the university and college teams is getting better and better each year. Before you make judgement of our players, come out and see some of our games. There are many great players on our teams.
As coaches, we want to push the quality of ball at the university and college level to become a varsity sport. Giving the perception that our game is second rate ball does not help the sport.
Wayne Nishihama, Head Coach
Ryerson University Women's Fastpitch Team
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Post by bb on Nov 27, 2018 11:30:06 GMT -5
Girls are choosing schools based on right fit for them both on academics and within playing the sport they love. While I think most are right a good Tier 1 player has a very good chance of making most Ontario teams it doesn't mean they shouldn't have every opportunity to talk to as many coaches as they can in one venue
They may be choosing between two schools and although they can make both teams isn't it in their best interest to meet these college coaches to see if that is the deciding factor between the schools, this doesn't seem like a cash grab to me, in the long run it will probably save them some money from visiting more schools just to meet with their collegiate coach first before deciding.
Wayne I do not think these guys are dissing the quality of ball it has dramatically improved over the last 10 years, I think they were questioning the costs, but when you factor in the value of having all these coaches available to discuss what you want out of your college years I think the $100 dollar cost becomes mute.
John
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Post by granddaddygus on Nov 27, 2018 18:05:37 GMT -5
Guess at the end of the day it's up to the individuals as to whether they see value in this event. If the event sells out then kudos to the organizers for recognizing a need and capitalizing on it. If on the other end it is lightly attended then I guess we can agree the marketplace found it overpriced.
For sure there are many US schools that offer camps that are used as fund raisers, Ryzer offers up dozens every weekend a person could attend. Girls will flock to those events, including lots of Ontario girls, because the schools offering them have well funded varsity programs for softball. We are for sure making progress here in Ontario at the post secondary level and BC now has a D2 (SFU) and an Naia (UBC) team that are competitive. But I'm not convinced that you will find a large number of travel calibre girls here willing to pay $100 to be "seen" by Ontario programs-but I'm wrong quite a bit so maybe you can prove me wrong here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 18:46:09 GMT -5
There's only one way to find out, isn't there! And for the record, back in Ontario I was an OIWFA coach for several years (2006-2011 Guelph Gryphons, 2012 York U Lions) & if I should ever return to Ontario I will seek out a position with them again. There was no intention on my part to disparage it. Despite the difficulties we had with schools & getting support from them, I enjoyed the experience tremendously and am saddened whenever I read a university can't field a team. Nothing infuriated me as an OIWFA coach more than hearing the words, "I didn't know we had a team at our school". So if this goes toward eradicating that, it's a tremendous plus. As I mentioned in my post, I think there's great potential here & getting everyone together under one roof is super, but to be "seen" - well, as a coach in the system I did a lot of seeing and introducing myself to prospective players at tournaments in Ancaster, Kitchener, Innerkip and beyond, as I'm sure you do if you work with teams at university-age. That's where we wound up doing most of our fact-finding for gauged interest (some players still hadn't chosen a university yet). I also think it's super when you get high profile players running the drills - still think if you can get more than 3 hours out of them it'd be better but that's just my 1.5 cents.
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Post by ryersonuniversity on Dec 12, 2018 18:58:43 GMT -5
DON'T BE DISAPPOINTED - REGISTER EARLY
REGISTRATIONS ARE STEADILY COMING IN For any high school students (Grades 9 to 12) wishing or interested in continuing their softball careers at the Canadian University of College level. The Prospects Camp is an opportunity to showcase your fastpitch skills in front of coaches from the various Ontario universities and colleges |
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Post by ryersonuniversity on Jan 11, 2019 16:11:54 GMT -5
High School Prospects Camp
ONLY EIGHT (8) SPOTS REMAINING
Sunday, February 3, 2019 - 9:00 am to 12 noon.
Fieldhouse Athletics 5230 Harvester Road Burlington, ON L7L 4X4 Registration Fees $100.00
or contact us at: wfastpitch@ryerson.ca |
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